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"Clarify the truth thoroughly, eliminate the evil with righteous thoughts, save all beings, and safeguard the Fa with determination" (Dafa is Indestructible) Radio National (Australia): Falun Gong on the march Wednesday 11/07/01 In the United States, supporters of the Falun Gong movement are on a
250-mile march from New York to Washington, DC. The march began last week,
and it's essentially a protest against the continuing repression of the
Falun Gong in China. Meanwhile the Falun Gong in Australia will also march.
Practitioners plan to set out today at 10am from Melbourne and Sydney and
they'll walk to Canberra, in what's clearly part of a global campaign to
focus attention on events in China. It's a big week for China. Early Saturday morning our time, the world will
find out whether or not Beijing is going to host the 2008 Olympic Games. So
this very public human rights protest couldn't have come at a more
inconvenient time. Next week marks the second anniversary of the Communist
Party's crackdown on Falun Gong. The Falun Gong allege that 252 of their
followers have now died in custody, and that another 50,000 are languishing
in Chinese jails. Their latest reports concern the horrific death of a
32-year-old woman, Zhou Fenglin, in the Xilin detention centre in Changzhou.
She was allegedly hung by chains for ten days before being tortured for
another eight, and died in agony. Falun Gong members, along with their charismatic leader Li Hongzhi, say that
they're doing nothing more than meditation, yet two years on the official
party line in China still [Jiang Zemin government's slanderous terms omitted]. [...] David Rutledge: Well outlawed it may be, but is Falun Gong in fact a xx,
or is it a legitimate religion - or is it something else altogether? Matt Kutolowski: I wouldn't call Falun Gong a religion myself, although like
religions, Falun Gong does have its spiritual beliefs. David Rutledge: Matt Kutolowski, a spokesman for Falun Gong, based at
Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. He says that Falun Gong isn't so much a
belief system as an ancient form of self-cultivation practice, or Qi Gong,
that involves meditation and exercise, without the trappings of religion as
we tend to think of it. Matt Kutolowski: There isn't anything like devotional activity or worship,
there's no set doctrine or canon, and we also don't have any membership or
an organisation and leadership, it's just a very loose network of
individuals who enjoy the practice. David Rutledge: What about the figure of Li Hongzhi, the leader (for want of
a better word). You say that Falun Gong has no set doctrine or canon, but
the writings and the sayings of Li Hongzhi seem to assume quite significant
importance in Falun Gong practice. Matt Kutolowski: Yes, they're significant, but not in the way that some
people might think or portray them. Mr Li has written a couple of books that
set forth the principles and the teachings of Falun Gong, which are really
pretty simple. They boil down to three principles of truthfulness,
compassion and forbearance (or you could translate it as tolerance as well).
And he's always been very clear, reminding people that it's the principles
that should serve as the guide or your teacher, rather than he himself, so
he's resisted attempts by people who kind of make him a celebrity or a
charismatic figure, and instead direct people back to the teaching. David Rutledge: So when you take some of his more 'out there' pronouncements
about alien civilisations and the end of all humanity except for Falun Gong
practitioners, this kind of thing, you're saying that these are private
statements, or privately held beliefs of his own? Matt Kutolowski: Actually a lot of people have taken some of the
statements out of context, and been confused by some of the teachings. So
some of the things that are talked about seem to us - how shall I say - a
little bit perhaps mystical or arcane, but these are things pretty basic
actually to traditional Taoism or Buddhism, from which the Qi Gong practices
in China derive. David Rutledge: What about organisation? I've heard that Falun Gong has no
formal organisational structure or has, as you say, a very loose structure
with no office holders, no membership lists, this kind of thing - and yet
what started the whole crackdown in China was, of course, this silent
protest outside of the Party headquarters in Beijing two years ago.
Thousands and thousands and thousands of people turning up for a silent
protest; I mean this would seem to indicate some kind of very well run
organisation. Can you comment on that? Matt Kutolowski: Yes. In China, the Chinese government itself estimated in
early 1999 in a survey that was reported in The New York Times, that between
70-million and 100-million people were actually practicing, so that's a very
large number of people who took up the practice in just seven years since it
came to the public. I lived in China in the summer of 1999, before and
during and then a little way into when the crackdown was taking place, and
it was really remarkable to see how many people were practicing, what that
really looks like. If you went to a park in the morning in China before July
20 of 1999 you would see hundreds, or even thousands of people gathered
together doing these exercises. So when I saw that, what that looked like, I
got a sense that 10,000 outside the Communist leadership headquarters making
an appeal probably actually isn't even that many people, because in a lot of
these parks and practice sites throughout China and in Beijing, it's
estimated there might even be hundreds of thousands of people practicing. So
for them to have 10,000 it really actually isn't that large a gathering, and
I think it was largely just by word of mouth. David Rutledge: So you were in Beijing during the early months of the
crackdown you said? Matt Kutolowski: Yes that's correct. I was studying on a scholarship at
Tsinghua University in Beijing at the time. David Rutledge: What was it like to be practicing Falun Gong at that time?
Was there a palpable air of menace? Matt Kutolowski: There was. It was a really frightening climate. There were
many people at my university who practiced and we would gather together in
the morning to practice, do the meditation, and some exercises. It was very
public and visible, but once the crackdown began, literally overnight
everything changed. People were no longer in the parks, instead they were
being driven out of the parks and out of the campus and even driven or
pulled out of the dormitory rooms. I had classmates who were Chinese
students there who were quite literally, yes, dragged out of their dorm
rooms during the night and taken off to jail. Many of them have been sent to
labour camps and several of them have been tortured, and every one of them
who hasn't renounced his or her beliefs has now been expelled from the
university. David Rutledge: Yes, it's quite extraordinary, and to ask a sort of obvious
question, maybe the central question: why has the Chinese government gone in
so hard against Falun Gong; I mean are they in any sense a destabilising
political force? Matt Kutolowski: Yes it's a good question. I'll answer the latter part of
that first. Falun Gong was actually praised by the Chinese government during
its early years for being a positive force, you could even say a stabilising
force in China. Between 1992 and 1996 it was very actively promoted and
patronised by the Chinese government. That was part of its rapid growth
perhaps. The Chinese government gave several awards to the founder of Falun
Gong Mr Li Hongzhi, and praised him for saving medical costs by having
people practice his exercises and become healthier. In 1994 the Chinese
government went so far as to try to set up what they call Falun Dafa or
Falun Gong Scholastic Organisations throughout China. And this is kind of a
significant moment I think in the development of the crackdown, before the
crackdown, in that the government was attempting to institutionalise the
practice. And this is something it had done and has continued to do with
other large groups of people who practice something like a traditional Qi
Gong or Tai Chi or even religion. There's an attempt to institutionalise
them, and thereby control their development by having a hand in it. The
teacher of Falun Gong, Mr Li, declined that offer, preferring to keep it
free of different entanglements - political, monetary and other things. And
that represented sort of a turn in attitude: that if this is something they
couldn't control, it was something they were going to have to regulate by
other means. David Rutledge: Falun Gong spokesman, Matt Kutolowski. [...] But can we dismiss these kinds of sentiments as pure propaganda, or is there
something in the charge that Falun Gong is a politically destabilising
force? It's a question that I put to Nina Shea, who's a human rights lawyer
and Director of the Centre for Religions Freedom in Washington, DC. Nina Shea: I think that any religious group is seen by the Chinese regime,
which bases its political philosophy on communism, as a destabilising force.
The Chinese government, the regime there, sees the Catholics and Protestant
Evangelicals as destabilising forces; these are not separatist movements,
like Falun Gong is not a separatist movement, but they use different excuses
for different groups. The Moslems, the Tibetan Buddhists, they're separatist
groups so they're bad; the Catholics, well they're loyal to Rome, so they're
bad; the Protestants, they're American, so they're bad. So a government that
places itself firmly in opposition to religion it cannot control, then of
course any religion that's independent it's going to find destabilising.
Religion is a powerful force that threatens totalitarian regimes, or those
that aspire to be like the Chinese government. David Rutledge: So why is the Chinese government going so hard after the
Falun Gong and not after, say, Catholics or Protestants, or any other
religious group? Nina Shea: Well I think that they do go hard after other religious groups
that operate outside of their purview and control. So if they have a say in
who the Bishop's going to be, or who the priests are going to be who are
ordained, or the ministers in the Protestant world, then they can tolerate
it. So I think in the case of Falun Gong, they find the problem is Li
Hongzhi and because they cannot control him, and he's gone into exile and
they see this vast national organisation that is very well co-ordinated,
that dares to stage a sit-in, then they get upset. They put up with it for
years before the sit-in two years ago, and it's really when there was this
civil disobedience that was obviously well-co-ordinated, a vast
communication network, that they then became extremely nervous. So there is
a dimension of civil disobedience I think, which the other churches, the
Christian churches, especially have avoided, or try to avoid; that's made a
difference. But there is suppression and arrests and even deaths under
suspicious circumstances or maybe beatings, of Christian leaders as well. David Rutledge: Well sometimes we find that these kinds of crackdowns and
forms of persecution can actually strengthen a group, strengthen their
resistance. I mean we can see this sort of thing in the early history of the
Christian church, just as one example. Do you think this is happening with
Falun Gong, or do you think that the Chinese government has actually done
them a lot of damage? Nina Shea: I don't know, and I don't really think anyone can assess this.
Certainly the Chinese government has been saying that they're suppressing
them and hurting the numbers, but who knows? I mean the Chinese government
cannot be relied on for truth-telling, that's for sure - that's part of
their propaganda message, that they're winning. Now it's true what you said,
that the Christian churches have been watered by the blood of the martyrs in
certain circumstances. Bit in other places they've been wiped out. So we
shall see. David Rutledge: Nina Shea of the Centre for Religious Freedom in Washington,
DC. [...] Posting date: 7/13/2001
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