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Confucius' Consulting With Laozi: A Discussion of Divine Culture By Yifu
(Clearwisdom.net) Orthodox Chinese culture is broad and profound; it
includes both cultivation culture and general culture for non-cultivators. Laozi
and Confucius were representatives of these two aspects of orthodox Chinese
culture. Twenty-five hundred years ago, Confucius once went to Luoyang to consult with
Laozi. From their conversation, we can distinguish the difference between
cultivation culture and general (ordinary) culture. Understanding the difference
will help us to better understand orthodox Chinese culture and the truth about
Falun Gong. During their meeting, Laozi pointed out that Confucius had "pride and
too much desire." Laozi suggested that Confucius get rid of such things,
"because these things are no good to you at all." After they exchanged
their understandings of justice and humanity, Laozi asked Confucius, "Have
you attained Tao?" Confucius said, "I have been seeking it for 27
years. I have not yet attained it." Laozi said, "If Tao were something
tangible that could be gifted to others, people would have struggled to dedicate
it to the king. If Tao could be gifted to others, people would have wanted to
gift it to their relatives. If Tao could be told clearly, everyone would have
told his brothers. If Tao could be taught to others, people would have struggled
to teach it to their children. All of the above are impossible. The reason is
simple. When a person doesn't have the correct understanding of Tao, Tao will
not come to his heart." Regarding things that Confucius couldn't forget or felt unfair about, Laozi
believed that Confucius was seeking trouble for himself because Confucius was
trapped inside fame and self-interest. After Confucius returned home, he didn't
speak for three days. One of Confucius' students, Zigong, felt it was strange and asked what was
going on. Confucius said, "I know birds fly, fish swim, and animals run.
The running ones can be controlled using traps. The swimming ones can be caught
using nets. The flying ones can be shot using arrows. Yet, dragons are sometimes
in the cloud and sometimes in the sky; I don't know how to deal with them. Laozi
is a dragon. His thoughts are like the dragon flying in the vault. I opened my
mouth, but I was speechless. I stretched out my tongue, yet I couldn't retract
it back. I feel anxious and can't find myself anymore." Confucius studied the theories and orders of how to be an ordinary person.
What Laozi talked about was the way of cultivation, which is much higher than
the ordinary people's realm. That's why Confucius couldn't completely understand
Laozi's words. In his Dao De Jing (also written as Tao Te Ching), Laozi said,
"After losing Tao, there is virtue. After losing virtue, there is humanity.
After losing humanity, there is justice. After losing justice, there is
courtesy." Laozi was very clear about the source of the humanity and
justice that Confucius taught. However, Confucius couldn't understand the Tao
that Laozi talked about. Though the two lived during the same historical period,
the difference between Confucius and Laozi tells us a principle, which is that
the cultivation of Tao exceeds all knowledge in the human world. Cultivators can
understand everything in the human world and not be moved by any interests and
desires in the human world. Ordinary people that don't cultivate are lost in the
illusion of the human world, and they regard cultivation as mystery that's
difficult to understand. The reason for causing such a difference is as what Laozi pointed out,
"When a person doesn't have the correct understanding of Tao, Tao will
absolutely not come to his heart." In other words, whether one seeks the
Tao with a pure heart and dares to give up fame, interests, and emotions in the
human world, is the foundation for whether one can understand the way of
cultivation. After Buddhism spread into China, it greatly enriched the culture of
cultivation. It helped people to know that there are other forms of cultivation.
After that, the Buddha school and the Tao school were both richly developed from
the Chinese cultivation culture, which is a unique situation in the world. What
the orthodox Chinese culture connotes is profound. This deep and rich
cultivation culture was prepared for people in the present time to enable them
to understand the Dafa cultivation. From the process of Confucius' consulting Laozi, we can gain some
enlightenment. Even the greatest scholar and thinker among ordinary people can
hardly understand the high realm of the cultivators. This phenomenon is
especially prominent in current people's understanding of Falun Gong. People are
used to viewing Falun Gong cultivation with their strong human mentalities and
using an ordinary view of right and wrong to comment on the Faun Gong
cultivation. We know that Laozi talked about many principles of governing a country in his
Dao De Jing. Yet, as a cultivator, he had no political ambition. Thus,
nobody said that Laozi was involved in politics. It was Confucius who had the
ambition of "recovering the Zhou rite" and traveled around in
different countries. This is another significant difference between cultivation
culture and ordinary culture. A genuine cultivator can see clearly everything in
the human world, but does not have any aspirations for the human politics. Some people have rejected the truth about Falun Gong and claimed that Falun
Gong is getting involved in politics. On the one hand, this is the result of
their being influenced by the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) fabricated rumors
about and slanders of Falun Gong. On the other hand, it is because modern people
have little understanding about cultivation. When people have a better
understanding of cultivation culture in the orthodox Chinese culture, they will
understand that Falun Gong has nothing to do with politics. That Falun Gong
practitioners' telling the truth during the persecution, spreading the "Nine
Commentaries about the Communist Party," and persuading people to quit
the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), and its affiliated organizations are done to
help people know the innocence of Falun Gong, the essence of the CCP, and the
danger of being part of the CCP. Falun Gong, itself, has no political ambitions
or goals, and it has nothing to do with politics. Political activities
struggling for desire and power bring trouble to oneself, and it is not at all a
cultivator's pursuit. The Chinese nation has five thousand years of glorious history. Only
cultivators who have truly given up the pursuit of fame, self-interest, and
emotions can deeply understand the essence of the broad and profound genuine
Chinese culture. Even the greatest scholar among ordinary people can only know
it superficially, instead of from within. When one has realized this critical
issue, it will be easier for him to understand the orthodox Chinese culture that
has a broad connotation closely related to cultivation. In recent years, overseas Falun Gong cultivators have been promoting
worldwide the orthodox Chinese culture, which is greatly welcome. The New Tang
Dynasty Television (NTDTV) Chinese New Year Spectacular has shown the genuine
Chinese Divine culture without the abnormal CCP culture. It has been most
meaningful to have it displayed by Falun Gong practitioners who cultivate the
principle of "Truth- Compassion-Forbearance." During the present days
while the CCP has been destroying the orthodox Chinese culture, only Falun Gong
practitioners can display the deep connotation of the true Chinese culture. The
true Chinese culture is tightly connected with the absolute base of human life.
The classical arts of the NTDTV Chinese New Year Spectacular is refreshing. The
audiences have strongly felt the essence of the true Chinese culture and are
shaken from the bottom of their hearts. If you are interested in the true Chinese culture and really want to
understand it, then you should carefully understand the truth about Falun Gong
and carefully watch the NTDTV Chinese New Year Spectacular. The Chinese people
should do so even more. Posting date: 2/28/2007
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